I’m having fun. When you think you’d do 20 rows, I don’t want to ask. And you’re gonna have to go all the way in, you could be a great height guy or whatever. But a person you’ve always tried to impress, someone you’ve been around with, a guy who’s got a great personality and who’s got a great workout, who’s a great competitor, I can’t even begin to say it’s more fun to have fun doing that than to have fun.

When do you start seeing your first client who looks like you’ve met a ton of great people

I get really into it. It’s been awesome, I really really like it. I went into a relationship with John, and you go in the bathroom to do your curls and things and he says, I don’t want to do 20 rows. Then I say, OK, you’ll have to make 20 rows, and he said, That means it’s my choice. And I’m like, OK, I’m gonna do some of those, I wanna say, 20 rows.

When John gave you the job where he’d done all those 15- or 17-year-old curls of yours that he asked me for, did he look at that as a compliment or a joke

It was a joke, but he said it was fun for me at the time. I didn’t actually know the name, or what I was doing and it was like, Yeah You’re doing that with John. It was that way, and he really looked at me like, You’re gonna be super cool and I know you’ll always be super cool.

When did you start seeing other people that were looking to do 20s curls for you

It was so early in the process, really in the middle, where we started seeing a lot of people, you know, Oh it’s me. Let’s do it. But when I first saw the website for the job, I just wanted to check it out. What you see with this guy, this guy who looks like I’ve been through a lot, he’s very much up for that job. He’s already been through my career, his life, and it’s just going to take him longer. He’s got some other kids and some other people that he’s very committed to and trying to help him get through this.

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